Giuliano Urbani: “Union is the end of Forza Italia”. The ideologue of the Cav dismisses the agreement

The birthright is his. In fact, it was Giuliano Urbani who invented Forza Italia, the party that would later dominate the Italian political scene for two decades. The emeritus professor of political science at Bocconi University showed up one day in June 1993 in the mansion of Cavaliere Silvio Berlusconi to suggest to him the possibility of creating a “mass liberal education”. The rest is history. Has the parable that began with his “crazy idea” ended? “Yes, and not from today. It has always been inextricably linked to the figure of Berlusconi: unfortunately the registry is rowing against him.” How would you define it now? “An opportunity …

The birthright is his. To invent Come on Italy, the party that would then dominate the Italian political framework for two decades, was in fact Giuliano Urbani. The emeritus professor of political science at Bocconi University showed up one day in June 1993 in the mansion of the Cavaliere Silvio Berlusconi to suggest to him the hypothesis of giving life to a “mass liberal formation”. The rest is history.

Has the parable that began with his “crazy idea” ended?

“Yes, and not from today. It has always been inextricably linked to the figure of Berlusconi: unfortunately the registry is rowing against him.”

How would you define it now?

“A wasted opportunity: it would have been nice if he had tried not to say a successor, but to ensure that those liberal roots take root”.

What was the beginning of the decline for you?

“When he had his last success: he made him touch the ceiling, and it became clear that he could not go any further.” Are you talking about 2008? “More or less, but a few years earlier we realized that the mechanism had jammed “.

Why?

“In the meantime, because the world had changed and the Knight could no longer collect votes by soliciting Italians in the name of anti-communism. Then, he had the wrong allies: you cannot link a liberal formation to a far-right party such as the National regional force such as the Lega di Bossi and the remnants of the Christian Democrats at a time in history that was not very favorable to the DC “.

Is it all a negative balance?

“No. There is a positive part: he made both his allies and his enemies change. He forced the Communists to present themselves with a new face, it being understood that the failure of Soviet Communism gave him a big hand. He competed. to cancel the DC, he induced the League to become a federalist secessionist, and contributed to so much upset An, that it crumbled with Fini “.

Is there still a need to form a mass liberal party?

“Like the air you breathe. Democracy works if it is liberal, otherwise it degenerates.”

Do you see anyone candidate to occupy that position?

“Now it’s not there.”

However, it seems that Coraggio Italia aspires to replace FI in that role.

“I don’t think so. Forza Italia is Silvio Berlusconi”.

We come to the federation: is it a good idea?

“Contrary to what Salvini thinks, I believe that the federation would punish the center-right. We need a coalition that represents the many social sectors of the country. A federation could, perhaps, be fine if it is not too rigid”.

Do you agree with the ministers Gelmini and Carfagna?

“Of course, they are right when they say that a federation with Salvini should not be established. It would be better with Meloni”.

Why?

“Because Meloni is no one’s daughter: neither of Giovanni Gentile nor of the National Alliance which is a different thing. It does not renounce its being on the right but it is democratic”.

A year ago you considered Salvini’s League a danger for Italy. It is still so?

“No, he changed. He put water in his vinegar. But if not him, part of his electorate has a racist vein instead.”

Not even the most refined commentators have understood well why Berlusconi has made up his mind at this step. How do you interpret it?

“To be mischievous I’d say he wants FI to die with him.”

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